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Introducing the Paragon Systemby Jay Wilson 20 Aug 2012 16:00 UTC 26While working on patch 1.0.4, we came up with all sorts of ideas for ways to improve Diablo III. Some of them you’ve probably already seen, such as the general systems changes, the awesome buffs for Legendaries, and the improvements we’re making to the barbarian, demon hunter, monk, witch doctor, and wizard. The entire team really banded together to get as much into this patch as possible, and one of the exciting changes I’d like to tell you about today is called the Paragon system.Two of the issues we’ve been thinking about while working on patch 1.0.4 have been what to do with Magic Find and how to give level-60 players who aren’t satisfied with the item hunt something more to strive for. I’m sure many of you are aware of the blog we posted proposing some different Magic Find gear-swapping solutions, as well as our general thoughts on how rewarding the game is once you hit level 60. The Paragon system is designed to help us address these concerns — but before we get into exactly how it works, let’s go over these two core issues in a little more detail.Magic FindAs you may remember, we posed a number of possible solutions to the gear-swapping issue and asked you to give us your feedback. While we saw some support for a couple of the options, what your responses ultimately told us was that although having to swap into Magic Find gear mid-fight annoyed some of you greatly, others were ambivalent, didn’t gear swap themselves, or — in a few cases — wanted to see gear-swappers penalized in some fashion. Those who do swap gear generally do so for the raw power advantage it gives, so we wanted any solution we went with to provide the same level of power. Overall, our analysis of the situation really hammered home one stark truth: we needed to come up with a way to make our Magic Find system more fun.Level 60 RewardsWe understand that some players feel frustrated once they hit level 60 because they no longer feel like they’re making progress. It can be demoralizing to play for an hour, not get any drops, and also be out a big chunk of gold from repair costs. Your play session may not only end without an upgrade, it can wind up being a net loss. Everyone wants to feel like they’re making some progress when they log in, even if they don’t get that new sword.Introducing the Paragon SystemThe new Paragon system coming in patch 1.0.4 is designed to address Magic Find gear-swapping while providing players who’ve reached level 60 with an extended progression system.Here’s how it works:After you hit level 60, any further experience you earn from killing monsters will begin to count toward Paragon levelsThere are 100 Paragon levelsEvery Paragon level will reward you with:Core stats such as Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, and Vitality in amounts similar to what you’d gain from a normal level3% Magic Find and 3% Gold FindIn addition, a distinctive increasingly-impressive border will surround your character portrait in the in-game party frame to denote your Paragon progression, with a new frame earned after every ten levels. Your Paragon level will also be visible to other players wherever your normal level is shown We know that a lot of you out there are level 60 — maybe on multiple characters — and this system provides a way to make progress every time you log in to the game.To support the new system, Nephalem Valor (NV) will now also provide a 15% experience bonus per stack, applicable toward Paragon levels. The first Paragon level should take about as long as it took most players to get from level 59 to 60, and the experience requirement will rise from there. The time to reach the upper Paragon levels approximates the long-term time investment required to get a level 99 character in Diablo II.… What Was That About Magic Find On Items?While the benefits to progression are obvious, you may be asking how this impacts Magic Find on items. We wanted to find a solution that was not only very forgiving of gear swapping, but one that would ultimately help us slowly and gently move Magic Find off of items in the future. It’s such an intrinsically important stat to the core purpose of playing the game that tying it to gear — which is a customization system in many ways — is ultimately an approach that would continue to cause problems. We need to transition away from it, and do so in a way that doesn’t flip the entire game end-over-end.With the Paragon system in place, we’re capping Magic Find and Gold Find to 300% (before Nephalem Valor). This means that without any Magic Find gear at all, you’ll hit the cap when you reach Paragon level 100. This way, you can continue wearing your current Magic Find gear as you slowly but surely work to gain Paragon levels. Eventually, once you hit Paragon level 100, you’ll have the freedom to completely focus every slot on stats that help your character kill stuff faster and stay alive longer. The idea is that if you’re currently swapping gear in and out for the Magic Find bonuses, you can continue to do so… but gain enough Paragon levels, and you won’t need to anymore.It’s also worth reiterating is that Nephalem Valor will not count towards the cap, which means the maximum will be 375% MF/GF at Paragon level 100 with 5five stacks of NV.Phew…The Paragon system is a fairly big addition to the game, and one we’re pretty excited about. On behalf of the entire Diablo III development team, we hope you enjoy the changes we’re making with patch 1.0.4, and we look forward to seeing you in-game when it releases. Stay tuned to Diablo3.com for the final patch notes and official launch announcement in the days ahead.Jay Wilson is Game Director for Diablo III, and his Necron army is WAY better than your Eldar army.
Ja jeg glæder mig også.Jeg tror at de får fat i mange players igen, da man har en masse at stræbe efter igen Men synes som sådan ikke det har ændret på debatten om swap mf gear.
Jeg har ikke noget problem med at swappe.Der har bare kørt en kæmpe debat om at mange mente at det var unfair at folk kunne swappe til MF gear, nu hvor de var i act 3/4 og få bedre drops.Så det har der været mange der whinede over, de følte at det var unfair at dem som gjorde det havde en stor fordel i gear progression.Men swapping er jo bare en "skill" som er blevet udviklet ved at spille nok:)
Citat fra: Kutsan efter August 20, 2012, 06:55:10 pmJeg har ikke noget problem med at swappe.Der har bare kørt en kæmpe debat om at mange mente at det var unfair at folk kunne swappe til MF gear, nu hvor de var i act 3/4 og få bedre drops.Så det har der været mange der whinede over, de følte at det var unfair at dem som gjorde det havde en stor fordel i gear progression.Men swapping er jo bare en "skill" som er blevet udviklet ved at spille nok:)Lige præcis.. Det er jo ikke noget som kun en "lukket flok kan få lov til", det er frit for alle at købe mf gear og swappe inden killing blow.. Det er faktisk ikke helt let, men alligevel en hel del sjovere
Synes det virker meget nice, det er helt sikkert noget der kunne få mig til at game lidt igen da jeg atm er gået meget død i spillet og ikke har lavet andet end at spille AH de sidste 2 uger.
Citat fra: Jandersen efter August 20, 2012, 07:29:14 pmSynes det virker meget nice, det er helt sikkert noget der kunne få mig til at game lidt igen da jeg atm er gået meget død i spillet og ikke har lavet andet end at spille AH de sidste 2 uger.Det må virkelig have været kedeligt. Folk er bange for at købe og sælge op til en patch. AH dør fuldstændig!
Citat fra: Cena efter August 20, 2012, 07:32:40 pmCitat fra: Jandersen efter August 20, 2012, 07:29:14 pmSynes det virker meget nice, det er helt sikkert noget der kunne få mig til at game lidt igen da jeg atm er gået meget død i spillet og ikke har lavet andet end at spille AH de sidste 2 uger.Det må virkelig have været kedeligt. Folk er bange for at købe og sælge op til en patch. AH dør fuldstændig!Tjaa, lidt kedeligt ja, men har da tjent tæt på 850m på det, så runder snart 1 milliard men ja, det er ikke det mest spændende.
Citat fra: Jandersen efter August 20, 2012, 07:35:30 pmCitat fra: Cena efter August 20, 2012, 07:32:40 pmCitat fra: Jandersen efter August 20, 2012, 07:29:14 pmSynes det virker meget nice, det er helt sikkert noget der kunne få mig til at game lidt igen da jeg atm er gået meget død i spillet og ikke har lavet andet end at spille AH de sidste 2 uger.Det må virkelig have været kedeligt. Folk er bange for at købe og sælge op til en patch. AH dør fuldstændig!Tjaa, lidt kedeligt ja, men har da tjent tæt på 850m på det, så runder snart 1 milliard men ja, det er ikke det mest spændende.Hvor mange timer har du spillet? Er ked af at sige det, men umiddelbart er det folk som dig der fucker AH for os andre, hvis du sidder og køber billige ting og sælger dem dyrere videre.Ved godt at det er sådan markedet fungerer, men derfor syntes jeg stadig det er noget lort. Du skal ikke tage det som et personligt angreb
Tager det skam ikke personligt og har selv siddet og været irriteret over folk der gjorde den, men indså så at det var vejen frem.Har omkring 600 hours played så har farmet min del også Det jeg gjorde var bare at jeg indså at hvis jeg ikke gjorde det så ville en anden gøre det, hvis jeg ser et wep til 5m som kan sælge for 30m+ hvorfor så ikke købe og sælge videre? Ved godt det er en lidt lousy holdning at have, men atm handler diablo jo om at tjene guld og der er det her vejen frem